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Why Discipline Doesn’t Work

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Why Discipline Doesn’t Work

An Excerpt from Out of Control: Why Disciplining Your Child Doesn’t Work… And What Will

“My child just doesn’t listen to me,” a parent tells me. “No matter what I say, I may as well be talking to the wall. Homework is a nightmare, chores are a constant battle, everything is a struggle.”


“What did you do the last time you were caught up in a struggle?” I ask.

“First I yelled at her. Then I threatened to take away some of her privileges.”

“Give me an example.”

“Instead of doing her homework, she was playing games on her computer all evening long. So I took her phone away for two weeks.”

“What happened then?”

“All hell broke lose. She yelled at me, saying she hated me and never wanted to talk to me again. She wasted another two hours crying in her room. I’m running out of things to take away from her. Nothing makes a difference!”

Does this sound familiar?

Which parent hasn’t threatened their children at some point? If they are mouthy with us, we take away television time. If they roll their eyes, we cancel their play date. If they don’t do well on an exam, we deny them a trip we promised them to Disney World. If they don’t clean their room, we take away their iPod. Caught in a cycle of If you don’t________, then I will________, we exhaust ourselves trying to control our children.

Most parents find themselves in an endless system of bartering with their children. I call it the “prisoner-warden” approach to parenting, in which the warden is required to closely monitor the child’s actions. The child, in the role of prisoner, does something right or wrong. The parent, acting the part of the warden, swoops in to dish out either a reward or a punishment. The prisoner soon becomes dependent on the warden’s control to regulate their behavior.

This system of rewards and punishments undercuts the child’s capacity to learn self-discipline, subverting their inherent potential for self-regulation. Becoming a mere puppet whose performance is entirely dependent on the warden, the child learns to be externally motivated rather than internally directed. As the years pass, it becomes unclear who the warden is and who the prisoner is, as both torment each other in endless cycles of manipulation.

It isn’t a happy situation for any parent to be in the role of warden. I ask parents if they like this role, to which they vehemently answer, “Absolutely not.” Yet when I point out how they are in fact playing this role and suggest they stop, they look at me as if I had two heads.

I say to them, “Disciplining your child by taking away their phone, or by yelling, grounding, or slapping them, only perpetuates the problem instead of resolving it. You are seeing the evidence right before your eyes that discipline doesn’t work. If it did, your child wouldn’t still be engaging in this behavior.”
Is there anyone who doesn’t believe we have to discipline our children? I believed in discipline for years. I yelled, tried time outs, and threatened. I believed it was what was required of me as a parent. No wonder then that when I suggest to parents that discipline isn’t only unnecessary, but actually feeds the negative behavior they are trying to correct, it’s as if I had asked them to give up a birthright.

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“What do you mean?” parents demand indignantly. “How can I not discipline my child? They won’t do anything if I don’t scare them or punish them.” Hearing the almost panicked tone of these parents, I realize how entrenched most of us are in our belief that discipline is a cornerstone of parenting. I also see the repercussions of this approach to parenting, in that the child truly won’t do anything without being threatened or bribed because they have become addicted to being constantly controlled.

When we engage with our children from the belief that child discipline is a vital aspect of our role as parents, we assume children are inherently undisciplined and need to be civilized. Ironically, the most heavily disciplined children are often those least able to control themselves.

Without ever really thinking it through, we’ve bought into the belief that without discipline, children run wild. We interpret all their misbehavior through this lens. I’m suggesting just the opposite. What we think of as “discipline” is detrimental and fails to produce the kind of behavior parents so long for in their children.

Originally the word “discipline” had a benign meaning, associated with education and training. But ask any parent today about discipline and they assume you are talking about a strategy to control a child’s behavior—a strategy that revolves around the parent exerting their will over the child.

Parents actually ponder the question, “What can I take away from my child that my child particularly enjoys, so they’ll get the message?” It doesn’t occur to them to ask whether the thing being taken away is in any way related to the behavior. The parent believes that depriving their child of this particularly treasured item or privilege will jolt the child into paying attention.

To see how nonsensical this approach is, let’s translate it to an adult level. After you have agreed to go on a diet, your spouse catches you cheating with a bag of donuts, and takes away your car keys to prevent you going to the donut shop again. Now, how do you feel? Or you are late for a lunch date with a friend, so your friend demands you give her your favorite piece of jewelry. Again, how do you feel?

I think we can agree that such actions are counterproductive to developing a good marriage or a strong friendship, let alone to keeping you away from donuts or being tardy again. Well, much of what we call “discipline” is just as nonsensical to our children—and just as deeply resented.

Ask yourself, what’s the connection between:

  • If you lose weight, we can go to Universal Studios
  • If you make the swim team, you can have a sleepover with your friends
  • If you get an A grade, you can go with grandma to the movie
  • If you don’t do your homework right now, I am not buying you new shoes
  • If you don’t speak to me politely, I’ll take away your phone
  • If you don’t stop lying to me, you will be grounded for three weeks.

Parents admit to me, “I find myself making threats without even thinking about it. I feel so angry, they just fly out of my mouth. Then once I make them, I have to follow through, or my child will think I don’t mean what I say—and then all hell will break loose.”

I respond, “Maybe things improve for the moment. But by using this approach, has the situation been permanently changed?”

Kindred TextEvery parent of whom I ask this question admits, “No, never.” As one person confided, “I hit that wall when my oldest was four. I thought, ‘It can’t have to be this way. Human beings, kids, are good!’ She is now eleven, and she has never seen, nor heard, nor experienced blackmail, threats, or punishment.” The fact is, this heavy-handed, dominance-based approach achieves nothing positive. Indeed, research has verified that punitive techniques carry long-lasting detrimental consequences.

Whenever I talk about this a parent will say to me, “But I was disciplined. In fact, my father walloped the life out of me—and I turned out fine.”

I don’t get into a debate about whether the parent is truly “fine.” I’ve learned that such a debate fails to get to the heart of the matter. Instead I ask, “How did you feel when you were being punished or beaten as a child?”

If the parent is honest, they then say something like: I hated it, I cried a lot, It terrified me, I hated myself, I just wanted to run away.

I ask the parent, “So why do you discipline?”

Predictably the answer is, “Because I want my children to learn. How will they learn if I don’t teach them?”

If our aim is to teach a child, I’ve already hinted that discipline is the enemy of teaching. Contrary to what almost everyone believes, far from being synonymous, discipline and teaching are worlds apart.

To illustrate this, think back to how you felt when you were sent to your room, your favorite television program was turned off, you were grounded so you couldn’t see your friends, your phone was taken from you, you were yelled at, or you were spanked. Did you feel good? Did it become natural for you to do what it intended to teach you? No, what you learned is, “My parents are the boss, so don’t piss them off.” You likely also learned that your parents treat other adults, work associates, and maybe even pets with more respect than you.

Because discipline seems related to their parent’s whims rather than something reasonable, it always triggers resentment in children. Though they may comply with our demands because we force them to do so, internally they develop a resistance not only to what we are asking of them, but even more so to us as the messenger. Their resistance, or at best half-heartedness, intensifies the parental need to control, as the parent bears down on the child, believing the stricter they are the more the child will comply. It’s this resistance that becomes emotional plaque, creating barriers to learning, growth, and—most of all—connection between the parent and child. The child’s behavior may fall in line, but their heart doesn’t. There’s no buy-in on our children’s part.

  1. Karen says

    So then what DO you do?

  2. Karen says

    I purchased your book for two nephews and my daughter. This book has touched my daughtwr, brought up emotions for her and change the relationships with her children-

    My complaint? Why weren’t you around 28 years ago when I was raising my daughters?

    Thank you so much for making a difference in my daughters and grand children’s life!
    The wardon has been buried! The cycle changed

  3. Monique DiCarlo says

    Reflecting on my parenting experience of 11 years, I’ve not done much disciplining, I saw that the time out or taking away method didn’t really work. Instead I tried to explain why I would not accept certain behavior. I am lucky, my daughter is a pretty “easy” child 😉 At times I had to be firm (also with my voice) and show a/my boundaries.

    What do you do when a child “needs” to change certain behavior, because it will affect their opportunity to thrive? I see children who manipulate their parents to no extend, making up sickness or throwing tantrums to get what they want, behaving selfish and using power to manipulate their friends, or just act very unsocial. These are examples of behavior I would not allow my child to exert. What action do you suggest to address this as a parent?

  4. Gary G. says

    All well and good, but you offer neither an alternative nor excerpts from your book, if that’s your main goal in this article; for us to buy your book to learn other methods of behavioral reconstruction.

  5. Bree says


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